AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Review & Stream Optimization Guide | OBS Studio Best Settings for Ryzen 3600
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Review & Stream Optimization Guide | OBS Studio Best Settings for Ryzen 3600


If you’ve got the new Ryzen 5 3600X or have
been on the fence about it – I’ve got some solid information here which should make your
decision easier or help you optimize your streaming setup. Many of you have asked for a review, many
have asked for a streaming optimization guide and this clip that you guys keep sending me…. [GN+Jayz2cents clip] Doesn’t really give me much of a choice,
now does it? Let’s jump in after a word from this video’s
sponsor. [intro/ad spot] I’m EposVox and welcome back to StreamGuides – your number
one resource for optimizing your live streams and going live. In this video, I’ll be walking you through
how the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-core CPU performs for live streaming with OBS Studio, as well
as some optimizations for you to keep in mind. If you’re looking for this info on the higher
end 3700x and 3900x CPUs from AMD, those videos are coming soon, so get subscribed and stay
tuned. I also, you know, have a cool website coming
soon for this project. You’re going to like it. Methodology
My tests were done on this Ryzen 3600X CPU borrowed from Wendell over at Level1Techs
installed in the ASRock Taichi X570 motherboard, part of AMD’s press kit, with 32GB of RAM
running at 3200MHz, with the Infinity Fabric clock set to match. I have turned PBO on in the BIOS – this is
a small kind of auto overclock setting that helps Ryzen’s performance a little with
no real work required on your part. I have my founder’s edition RTX 2080 graphics
card to run the games. Oh yeah, and to cool this bad boy I’m using
the new Noctua NH-U12S 120mm cooler that they sent me for review. I wasn’t sure what to expect from these
tiny coolers, but MAN it’s small, it’s quiet, and the CPU never got above 45C in
ANY of my testing… what more could you ask for? I’ve been a fan of the NH-D15 and D14 series
for years, so it’s nice to see the more reasonably-sized coolers perform well, too. For my performance tests, I set up OBS with
either a 720p or 1080p canvas, and primarily tested at 6mbps at 1080p using X264 encoder
on Fast, Medium, and Slow CPU Usage Presets, as well as my “secret sauce” settings
– covered in this video here – and then at 720p on Slow and Slow with my “secret sauce”
settings. The games are running fullscreen at 2560×1440
at a 120hz refresh rate – this is a “median” format of people who come to me asking for
help, BUT is higher resolution that what most streamers are actually using. The most common resolution is 1080p or similar. BUT the advantage here is that by validating
performance based on running at 1440p, anyone running lower than this will have similar
or even better results. BUT this is where many streaming reviews fall
short. I didn’t JUST include gameplay in my OBS
scene. Very few people out there are streaming with
only gameplay footage showing, and those who do aren’t likely to net many followers while
doing so. Instead, I also added on a facecam, using
this AVerMedia PW313 live stream webcam – review soon – on default settings, and my usual animated
webcam frame and recent follower or tipper feed bars. These are on a loop and everything is consistent
between tests. I didn’t bother with the text or anything
else – I felt like this was a good enough scene to more closely simulate a proper streaming
setup. Too many people test their streams with just
gameplay and then switch to a full layout and performance is WAY different. This fixes that. Also, while this is a Windows image made specifically
for this benchmarking purpose, I didn’t want to keep it totally vanilla, as that’s
not representative of streaming setups either. So I had the Stream Deck running w/ HWInfo
graphs and controls for my benchmarking process as well as the GoXLR app and services for
audio. General Results
Before we get started, I wanted to note that these test results and optimizations are for
low bitrate streaming situations. If you’re just recording, you can use a
high bitrate or a CRF or CQP value and not have to worry about which CPU Usage Preset
is being used at all, so it’s a non-issue. Generally speaking, this CPU is a MONSTER. For $200 to $250, you can game and stream
to your heart’s content. I… am seriously impressed. This CPU can stream every game I tested at
720p 60fps on Slow, Medium, and my “secret sauce” settings on Slow with 0 frames dropped
whatsoever. Seriously. Every single one. With minimal impact on how your gameplay feels,
too! It’s… truly insane. 1080p60 gives trouble on Medium for a lot
of games – especially when it comes down to your actual game’s frame pacing and your
enjoyment of the game, and Slow at 1080p is not possible on any game I tested, but I believe
720p is the way to go anyway. If you’re feeling disappointed and confused
as to why I would celebrate 720p, the limited bitrates required for streaming to Twitch
– and that most people can actually stream at – are nowhere near high enough for good-looking
1080p60 in most fast-paced games, but can be good for 720p, especially with my special
tweaks. Granted the 10megabit per second cap for Mixer
is a little more reasonable for 1080p60, but even still, that’s hard for most average
internet connections to stream. As far as the X264 Slow conversation goes,
I have a whole video essay addressing that here, linked in the video description. X264’s CPU Usage Presets are just that – presets. They’re pre-configured groups of settings
of X264, none of them designed or optimized for game streaming in particular, and the
ones like Slow are not at all intended to be run in realtime live environments in the
first place. As you can see in some of these tests going
from Medium where there’s literally no dropped frames at all, to Slow where it can drop between
50 and 90% of frames…. Yeah. The difficulty curve of pushing each CPU preset
is not at all linear. My recommendation is to avoid slow in general,
BUT if you must, the Ryzen 5 3600X (and mostly the 3600, too) can stream Slow at 720p in
most games. I do, seriously, urge you to use Medium with
my special sauce settings, which pull some of the quality gain flags from Slow without
many of the performance-costing ones. GPU Allocation
Something that I was constantly battling up against – something I have run into for years
and have a salty FAQ rant-style video about here, linked below – is the issue of limited
GPU resources. BUT I did finally utilize and confirm a specific
fix – which is obvious and I’ve suggested before – that made this setup work here. To sum it up briefly: You only have a finite
amount of processing power on your graphics card, just like your processor. This amount of power is used both by your
game that you’re playing and OBS itself. OBS uses the same processing power as your
games to composite and render your scene that it streams. This is inherent to how OBS works, and cannot
be avoided. To “remove” this would be to prevent you
from at all being able to use anything but your gameplay as a source and change the scale
of it, etc. Windows 10 has typically done a bad job of
managing this and allowing programs to compete with one another. So while your game is using 80%+ of your graphics
card and OBS starts to try to claim another 20% or more, they both suffer, but OBS’s
performance is the most problematic. You start to lose frames without any obvious
reason why. In the Windows 10 1903 update, this situation
has improved quite a bit for those gaming at 1080p. Enabling Game Mode, Windows is now able to
allow OBS to reserve the resources it needs and generally this is not a problem. At 1440p high refresh rate, and at 4K, however,
this is still an issue. It’s being worked on, but slowly. The obvious fixes are to reduce your GPU usage
– so lowering game settings or resolution, limiting your game’s frame rate to 60 or
120, lowering your OBS canvas to 720p, and so on. However for some games, like Apex Legends
in my case, this isn’t enough. Especially given that my monitors are of mis-matched
refresh rates. The monitor I’m gaming on is at 120hz, the
one I’m monitoring OBS on is 60hz. This meant that even though I could get Apex
Legends down to using only 50% of the GPU on its own, having OBS running was pushing
that to 100% and then losing frames! There is a confirmed bug in the way the Windows
DWM handles different refresh rates when OBS’s preview is going that causes this usage to
go out of control and cause performance problems. So the saving grace for this setup was disabling
the preview. This… sucks, as I regularly monitor the
preview while I’m live streaming, but a necessary evil. That being said, I still had to frame cap
certain games, too. We’ll touch on this next. Again, none of this really has anything to
do with the CPU specifically – but I’ve made recommendations before and then people
run into these GPU-limited scenarios and think the processor is the problem. This is something you have to deal with whether
you’re on the 3600X, 3900X, or my 18-core i9-7980XE. It’s… fun. Game-Specific
Let’s talk about a couple game-specific optimizations and thoughts for a minute. Black Ops 4 and Minecraft were both easy to
stream at 1080p60 up to Medium, and were unstreamable at Slow. My “secret sauce” settings at 1080p60
Medium work, too! As they do at 720p60 Slow. Apex Legends, I had to frame cap all the way
down to 60. You determine this by seeing what frame rate
you can guarantee your game will run at. Apex was not holding a locked 120fps, which
means it’s still using my full GPU trying to hit that target, but was always above 60,
by a long shot, so I had to cap 60 to limit performance enough to make OBS usable. You could, of course, choose something weird
and higher like 80 or 90, but that gets complicated. Streaming at 1080p60, frame pacing was a tad
annoying at Medium – meaning while you’re not dropping frames in the stream, your game
framerate and render times are bouncing around sporadically, increasing input lag and making
the game feel and look jerky. This isn’t good. If you’re set on doing 1080p streaming,
I’d stick to Fast. Otherwise, it can stream at 720p60 Slow with
my secret sauce settings with no issues. Ehhh I’m calling the “secret sauce”
settings the “Vox Config” from now on. Using the “Vox Config” at 1080p60 Medium
had pretty meh frame pacing, I’d still stick to fast, but my teammate and I did come in
second place! I’m going to blame the loss on the jerkiness
affecting my aim. Totally. Fortnite – can you believe I actually PLAYED
Fortnite for this? – again needs capped to 60fps. It was alright at 1080p60 up to medium, but
again, Slow or Vox Config at 720p is definitely the best results here. [mech clip]
Tekken 7 is pretty tough to run and stream. 1080p60 was mostly a no-go, even at Medium
graphics settings in-game, even on Fast and Medium there was a little too much hitching
and poor frame-pacing to be acceptable for frame-timed fighting games. 720p is the way to go here, no issues again. Or maybe just 1080p Faster. But stick to 720p. Devil May Cry 5 actually ran fine at 1080p60
Medium, but there was some weird hitching during the in-engine cutscenes. Was fine and smooth otherwise. Rocket League ran great up to 1080p60 Medium. 720p was flawless. PUBG was… really tough. The impact on your framerate compared to not
recording at all is MASSIVE. I had insane frame pacing issues and even
render lag still cropping up on most of my tests – I 100% recommend capping your framerate
to 60fps (my 2080 only even runs it at like 90fps most of the time anyway if I recall
correctly) and streaming at 720p60 on Medium or Fast. Ouch. CSGO again, I had terrible frame pacing issues
streaming at 1080p60 even on Fast, but 720p60 even on Slow with my VoxConfig was perfectly
fine. Similar story in Battalion 1944 and Destiny
2. Bad frame pacing at 1080p60 Medium, perfectly
fine at 720p60 Slow with Vox Config. Overwatch… ooh boy this is the game that
sent me down the GPU Allocation Issue rabbit hole starting in 2017. It is very CPU reliant for smooth performance
and I could not get smooth frame pacing while frame-capped to 60 and dropped down to Faster
preset at 1080p60. It was bad, and nearly unplayable on Medium. But 720p60 Slow VoxConfig? Smooth. UGH. It’s also worth noting here that if you
want to stream and record at the same time, unless you’re just saving a local copy of
your stream feed using the “use stream encoder” option at the exact same settings, I always
recommend leveraging GPU encoding for the recording side. Set it to a CQP of 14 or 18 and let it do
its thing. Running dual CPU encoders is way too intense,
even for this CPU, and not worth it. Dual PC
What if you want to use your 3600 rig as a dedicated streaming PC for streaming external
sources such as cameras, game consoles or gaming PCs via capture cards or NDI? Good news: The Ryzen 5 3600 is great at this,
too! The CPU and chipset have enough PCIe lanes
that you could see as many as 4 PCIe capture cards added to the system – or more, depending
on your motherboard, plus USB devices – which is awesome. Performance-wise, you still can’t stream
at 1080p60 on Slow – it still fails to encode… most of the frames. But 1080p60 Medium goes alright in my testing,
though adding my VoxConfig on top of Medium is still a tad too much for it. Only dropped 2.4% of frames during a test
encode, but it was dropping them at a regular enough interval that I wouldn’t recommend
it. However, once again, 720p60 even with the
VoxConfig settings is perfectly fine. Also, I was playing from the preview here,
so be nice. This is mostly due to the thread count. 12 threads isn’t quite enough to push 1080p
on Slow, but is for 720p. Gee, I wonder what resolution I recommend
streaming at? 😛 Also, I did quite a few hours of Discord Go
Live streaming on this rig, too! We’ll be covering that in an upcoming video,
though. Conclusion
I wanted to cover some of the specific optimizations I had to use to make sure you had the tools
available to make this CPU work for your stream, but you get the idea. Stream with a 720p60, Medium or VoxConfig
setup, frame cap and disable previews as needed to balance your GPU performance, and enjoy
chasing that Twitch or Mixer partnership with this BEAST of a value CPU. It’s not the cheapest chip out there, but
the performance value you’re getting for your dollar is INSANE! And you can even pair it with a cheaper B450
motherboard as long as it has good VRM cooling! I recommend the MSI B450M Gaming Plus if you
need a mATX board, specifically, or the Gigabyte B450 Aorus ELITE for full-size ATX if you
want cheaper boards. Both are under $100. This ASRock Taichi is pretty solid on the
X570 side, too. I hope this answers most of the questions
you may have about the Ryzen 5 3600 for streaming. If you have more, consider joining our inner
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79 Comments

  • zakázaný Phoenix

    which better cpu x264 or nvenc cause i want to know i am stuck with duo 2 e7300, and i wanna pull grenade on r5 3600 & rx 5700 pc but i am afraid that might miss nvidia exclusive features pleas. give yo 50 cents if so i have to downgrade to gtx 1660 ti and get better monitor 144hzzz

  • Vertical Limit

    cant wait.. i got the 3600, will the settings transfer over or will i need to make a few sacrifices. really hoping to get some help from this for my 3600, been having some troubles getting it right but i been trying to stream apex legends and i maybe been trying to get too much out of it.

  • Archklown

    Thank you for including a fighting game in the analysis, fighting games tend to not get as much coverage in tech channels for reviews.

  • Hetz Biz

    Ok Adam, found it. You CAN specify a GPU for encoding if you're using FFMPEG. See here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40424350/how-to-specify-the-gpu-to-be-used-by-nvenc-in-ffmpeg

  • BadRusMan

    I'm in the process of deciding whether to make 1 single pc for streaming+gaming with 3950x or dual pc with 2700x as streaming rig.
    Any advises?

  • Gamer Voice

    Someone needs to do a PSA about the refresh rate preview situation.
    I ended up just buying a pair of 240hz monitors just to not ever need to deal with it.
    Most people dont' even know they are being gaffed by their lower hz monitor.

  • SnowGentleman

    @EposVox 7:01 Can't you have an older second GPU to nullify the GPU Usage for the GPU you are Gaming on ???
    Use the Second Card for Obs and the many Gpu for Gaming. That is my train of thought.

  • Siana Gearz

    If you had to describe the secret sauce in the following terms would it be
    a) ketchup
    b) mayonnaise
    c) mustard
    d) chili sauce
    e) butter sauce
    f) remoulade
    g) hollandaise
    h) bolognaise
    i) pesto
    j) caramel
    k) milk-based white sauce
    l) soy sauce
    m) singara
    n) salsa fresca
    o) something i forgot.

  • SorryMyHoney

    @EposVox I have a question, the more cores the better for the dedicated streaming pc right ? because 2700x (249$) is cheaper than 3600x (275$) in my country. Also 2700 is only 219$, I think I will buy 2700 for my dedicated streaming pc, which one is worth it ?

  • Cneal1990

    Eposvox if I have a rtx 2070 and an older cpu would it be worth going over to 3600 for streaming x264 vs new nvenc? I have thought that the 4 core 4 thread i5 cpu was limiting OBS but it seems like I maybe running into the gpu issues you highlighted.

  • Kaioken Ekko

    Havent watched the video yet, but wtf, Gamer Nexus saying you need a lot of tweaking to get 3600 to stream properly? It's easy peasy, even the 1600 was. Is he on crack? LUL
    EDIT: After watching the video, i get that Gamer Nexus wasnt saying it wasnt possible to stream easily, but surely, mas it sound like it. Anyway, Nice video EposVox 😀

  • Siana Gearz

    A question to the audience: so Overwatch has a significant bit of mouse lag for me. Even without triple buffering, it's always laggy and floaty. In fact it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

    I always have max prerendered frames set to 1, globally, because i really can't stand mouse lag, and in most games, this works well enough to where i'm entirely comfortable, but not in Overwatch. I have been able to improve the situation towards playable by forcing NVidia Fast Sync on it, so it runs at right around 100fps. Which is an improvement but not entirely good, i mean for one the frames are badly paced on my 60Hz monitor, and for other, if i ever had a marvellous thought to stream it, i wouldn't have GPU resources left over to do so! Does anyone have a saner solution?

    I honestly think Overwatch is just a hilariously bad piece of software. Certain rendering effects like screen space reflections are much slower than they have any right to be. And then, i have limited movement in my left hand because i broke two of my left hand fingers in an accident a while back, so i tried to map forward-movement to both W-key on keyboard and one of the side buttons on my mouse, to try to reduce the keys i need to hold down with left hand. But then, there's an issue that one of the inputs overrides the other on release, i.e. if i hold the W key on the keyboard, let go of it, and simultaneously press the corresponding mouse button, instead of continuing to move, i grind to a halt, i need to release the mouse button and try again. What i'd expect instead is that i could transition from keyboard to mouse and continue moving! That's how it works in pretty much any other game! I'm slightly too used to WASD layout to transition out of it entirely, and if i had to unmap or stop using W key entirely, well that would also mess me up in games where WASD cluster cannot be remapped.

  • MFG

    What if you want to stream Wow/ Dota 2 and not the much more demanding games like PUBG and so on? Is the 1600x going to do the job 1with a 580 8gb ? I am looking to stream at 720p 60fps minimum, I would prefer 1080p but if the PC cant handle it…. oh well.

  • lee x

    I've not gone through your video with you but you seem to be very focused on using 60fps,
    I not to fond of 60fps due to the heat and lower battery life (viewer end) and needing higher bit rate to reduce image quality loss all just to gain 30fps more to make it slightly smoother for a lot of effort and loss of image quality especially if it's fast motion and needing more then system 2x resources on the streamer end to do it

    A lot of hardware still can't do 60fps in gpu hardware and has to use the cpu to do the work, when 30fps cpu is mostly idle(is across 5 phones and 7 systems and 2 chromebooks) as gpu is handling all the work (not sure why systems fall back to useing cpu still when anything made in last 7 years can/should do 1080p60 on the gpu)

    I take 1080p30/720p30 over 720p60/1080p60 as you can dedicated more of the cpu or nvenc gpu towards image quality, if the image can't recover under half a second or better and your seeing a Blockley mess at 60fps in squares seems to make 60fps redundant on twitch if you don't have a dedicated streaming rig to be able to to 1080p60 at 6mb (even 720p60 can be a problem sometimes)

  • Vertical Limit

    damn bro gamers nexus put you on the spot lmao 🙂 thank you so much for your efforts tho my man we really appreciate everything that you do for the community. you are such an amzing help to alot of us so again thank you and take care.. peace

  • Dan Boyle

    Interesting results on pubg. I stream it on my 3700x with the voxconfig and have 0 hitching issues. I don't cap the frame rate either. I am usually at 100% gpu or close to it (gtx 1080) on 1440p. I stream 720p60 on Medium. I can't game capture so I display capture. Not sure if that has an effect.

  • Favio

    Always love the vids Adam, you educate me in areas that i do not have the resources to look into myself. You are my go to recommendation when people ask me obs and audio questions. Keep up the good work.

  • Lalo Ajuria

    what do you think the major streamers are using for their settings then (ninja, shroud, dr, etc)? you should do some consulting….

  • Dávid Solt

    Hi. I have a Ryzen 2600 16gb 3000hz DDR4 and an RX 460 4gb card with a really shitty upload speed 6 Mbps. Can I stream in 1080? I tried so many option but I think my upload speed is not enough.

  • Janis S

    07:01 Gpu allocation issues: – Just put a secondary GPU in your rig and force OBS to run on it to get smooth 60fps streams from a single pc setup… i remember my secondary GTX650 getting around 30% usage with a 1080p60fps canvas. this both increased the game's fps cause it could use all of my primary gpu and also removed the stream stutters associated with those peak moments.

  • Peter Jansen

    I use a Noctua D15 on a 3700X in a Fractal S (stock fan configuration), for me the temperature gets up to 65 degrees C but I tuned the fan-curve to prioritize as little noise as possible. Out of mny head I let the fan (one centre fan) go up to 50% rpm at 70 degrees, up to 40% at 60 degrees C, so anywhere in betwee 40 and 50% rpm is the maximum of the fan on my D15. I think that that is a good balance between performance and noise, unless AMD does something weird like limiting the boost when 45 degrees is reached earlier, allegedly (employee from ASUS via der Bauser) AMD uses some middle temperature for its boost algorithm. My graphics card (old HD 7850) doesnn't get warmer than 60 degrees while fully utilized (98/99% load) so that works pretty well.

  • Peter Jansen

    I would like to see another cooperation with Level1Techs Wendell: streaming with OBS for the same games on Linux. I am very curious how that works in comparison, CS:Go runs great on Linux (even higher FPS on Windows with a 3700X) and you have a program called gamemode on Linux which makes sure that your CPU works at "performance" settings. Linux has a lot less bloat than Windows but of course you can disable a lot of bloat on W10, I speculate that many professional streamers do so because they notice the problems caused by that bloat earlier than regular users, in theory. I didn't know that EposVox is on floatplane too. Cool.

  • The Contagious Gamer

    "Very few people out there are just streaming with only gameplay footage showing and those who do aren't likely to net many followers while doing so"

    Well damn, that hurt

  • Sudhanshu Sharma

    Whoa ! You actually covered Tekken 7 in the review. I am elated to be honest. Great review nonetheless. Will stick to 720p stream settings as recommended.

  • clovermye

    Fantastic video! Just out of curiosity, has he been testing the CSGO in low graphics and low resolutions while broadcasting? Since the vast majority of streamers and pro players use those settings

  • Dino

    Can you please explain if we can make an dedicated stream PC with a Ryzen GPU to stream 720p 4000 bit rate? Thank you always for your videos.

  • Karlsanada13 - The Gamers Camp

    I was originally checking to either get 2700 non x or 3600 to upgrade my ancient aging i7 2600 so I could finally do streams. I guess I will go for 3600 instead of 2700. I have RX 480 but eill probably upgrade next year with a beeifer amd gpu once they release the new cards q3 2020

  • YaKillaCJ

    Thank U for bringing up the GPU usage thing. Its especially can be problematic in Overwatch with the "rendering device lost" or not enough gpu resources. I found this out on Apex Legends too as I could reproduce the issue like clockwork. Having all my monitors on 1080p 144Hz, 1440p 60Hz and 480p 60Hz is definitely a bug. But using only 1 monitor was fine, tho obviously I refuse to settle. Turning off OBS preview window saved so much headache. Now that Im using a 2 pc setup, its a none issue.

  • SvD KILLSWITCH

    I know you've talked a bit about AMD's AMF encoder in the past, but what are your recommendations for someone with a Ryzen CPU and an AMD GPU who wants to stream and record at the same time, outside of using the stream encoder to save a local copy? While NVENC is known to be solid overall, is it worth still following your instructions and simply using AMF at a high enough bitrate to mask some of the issues you've mentioned in the past? I'm using a Ryzen 7 1700 with an R9 290X if that makes any difference. I'm fairly sure the GPU encoder has changed quite a lot between generations.

    Bonus round: Is there an appreciable difference in setting your base canvas resolution to 1280×720 vs keeping it at 1920×1080 and rescaling the encoder output to 1280×720 instead? My assumption would be 'yes', as the encoder still has to work with a 1080p resolution feed and only scales it after all the processing is done, which is where the bulk of the performance loss probably lies in running 1080p medium vs 720p medium.

  • Affrodeezyac

    3900x a 1080p60fps @ slow settings- CBR 4500bits – easy . Rtx 2080ti , gaming at 100fps+ streaming at 60fps , profile -> high .

  • murderbits

    I've been a die-hard believer in dual-PC streaming and CPU x264 encoding. I've been testing NVENC (new) recently, though, and find that even on a 1080ti, it produces results just as good as the dedicated system did (and I constantly had positive comments from people on the quality of that). So I'm actually totally down for NVENC going forward. My encoding rig recently died and I figured I'd have to build a new machine. Figured I'd go 3900x with 2080ti — but based on a ton of research, it honestly doesn't look like (if you're using NVENC) the 3900x will bring any benefit over my 2.5yr old 7700K. So, I'm sitting idle here planning to stream from this rig for another year or two (whenever the next generation of Ryzen is out — not the next refresh, but generation).

    If I were doing way more video editing than I do, I'd probably consider the 3900x. But since I primarily only game/stream full-time (as in, instead of working for a living), it strikes me as a very lateral move. Which on one hand, I'm happy to know . . . but also disapointed. Because, you know, new rigs are fun.

  • Clyde Cash

    i have a 3600. was going to get a 3600x but i thought why not save 50 bucks and get a 3600 and use that 50 for an aftermarket cpu cooler

  • Shizzle

    Im kinda shocked! i bought the ryzen 9 3900x after the release aand…
    i used to stream a little bit kinda a newbee.
    After all i found some settings which fitted well but now ive some issues like from nothing my stream start "stuttering/lagging"
    And i didnt change anything.

    my actual setup is:

    Ryzen 9 3900x

    Trident Z Royal Gold – 32 GB 3600Mhz

    NVIDIA Geforce® GTX 1070 8GB (Yeah ill update my GPU soon)
    MPG x570 GAMING PRO CARBON

    oh yeah and im streaming on 900p 60 fps

    i stream over x264 encoder.
    anyone have the same problems?

    Nice Video btw 😀
    Kind Regards

  • Patrick Hilbun

    Should I buy a r5 3600 or a r7 2700x? I will be editing 4K in davinci and I mostly care about smooth responsive playback. I will also stream a little at 1080p60. They are both around 200. Which one will be the best for my needs or should I look at maybe an r7 3700x or r9 3900x? I don’t care about gaming performance too much I only play at 1080p 60fps. Also GPU recommendations? Price to performance is important.

  • sphenomz

    Hey Adam, can you help with one dilemma:
    For 3600 or "X" its kinda obvious that its good for streaming, but details and presets are very useful in your analysis.
    But personaly im not sure if "stream-dedicated" PC with 3400G can make it with capture card and 1080p stream (i wanted to skip GPU part if its possible with new apu) capturing 1440p (gaming pc).
    Can you give any advice?
    Thank you in advance, great content as always.

  • keyb0at

    sorry, im not sure if i just missed it, but did you mention of you are using capture card for this? i saw you have elgato PCI but am not sure if you bypassed it for these tests.

  • keyb0at

    best settings for 3700x + 5700xt please. it must be a totally different story since we dont have NVENC… also, is it safe to assume that it will eat less GPU usage if i use x264? i tried just recording my desktop and task manager says 20%.

  • keyb0at

    best settings for 3700x + 5700xt please. it must be a totally different story since we dont have NVENC… also, is it safe to assume that it will eat less GPU usage if i use x264? i tried just recording my desktop and task manager says 20%.

  • Jamey Summers

    My 65 year old mother is poor and I try to do good things for her. She needed a computer pretty bad so I built her one. it's funny as hell. I built her a Ryzen 5 2600x machine with a Powercolor Red Devil Rx 480, Corsair Vengance 3200Mhz 16 Gs of RAM a MSI Tomahawk B450 and 500G Nvme @ 1200 Mb/s and a 1 Gb sata ssd with a 500w bronze rated PSU. She can now check her e-mail faster than any of her friends.

  • Jamey Summers

    So, I don't get this. If you want to save the $39 and buy the 3600 instead of the 3600x, and then spend the extra money to get a better cooler, what's the difference? You still paid for a lower clocked Ryzen but spent 3600x prices. Also, in 4 days, AMD is supposed to come up with a boost fix, so that really should add the extra 3% to the already 3% in the 3600X that is missing.

  • Павел Суханов

    sorry, my eng is bad 🙂 so how i understand 3600 can stream with 6k bitrate and medium preset maximum in 1080p 60fps? this is not perfect :S
    and how you thinking, 3600 without X with autoboost and good big air cooler will be work on MSI B350 PC Mate motherboard after updating bios? 🙂

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